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On this page we should enter some rules for everyone, so that every page looks the same and follows the same style rules, which makes it easier for everyone to create and edit pages the same way.

Release pages

Text

As the first line, enter the name of the release in bold italic text, followed by general release information. For dates, always use this form: Month in letters DD, YYYY.

Example:

'''''Du riechst so gut''''' is the 1st single off the album ''[[Herzeleid (album)|Herzeleid]]'' by [[Rammstein (band)|Rammstein]]. It was released on August 24, 1995.

Code

Copy this full code when creating a new release page:

{{Album 
| Name       = Album name
| Type       = Album/Single/Demo/Video
| Cover      = Name of the release cover file
| Released   = Release date (Month in letters DD, YYYY)
| Recorded   = Studio La Fabrique, France 2018
| Genre      = Neue Deutsche Härte
| Length     = Full length
| Label      = Labels
| Format     = Available formats
| Producer   = Producer name
| Artist     = Artist name
| Listen/buy = Spotify & iTunes links
| Last album = ''Previous release''<br>(Release year)
| This album = '''''This year'''''<br>(Release year)
| Next album = ''Next release''<br>(Release year)
}}

When you don't enter something for a line, it won't show up on the page, but the code is still visible in the "Edit" mode.

Structure

Try to follow this structure when creating album pages:

==Information==
===Recording===
==Release==
===Formats===
==Tracklist==
==Trivia==

When nothing can be entered for a headline, just leave it out.

For single pages, try following this structure:

==Information==
==Formats==
==Remixes==
==Tracklist==

This is very loose, since it has to be adapted to every specific release itself. Just make sure that every relevant information is presented on the page.

Names

When mentioning single or album names on a page, write them in italic. Even if they are a link.

Song pages

Text

As the first line, enter the name of the song in bold italic text, followed by general song information.

Example:

'''''Du riechst so gut''''' is the 6th song on the album ''[[Herzeleid (album)|Herzeleid]]'' by [[Rammstein (band)|Rammstein]].

Code

Copy this full code when creating a new release page:

{{Song
| Name        = Song name
| Length      = Song length
| Album       = Album name
| Single      = Single name
| Live debut    = First known live performance
| Last played   = Last known live performance
}}

When you don't enter something for a line, it won't show up on the page, but the code is still visible in the "Edit" mode.

Structure

Try following this structure when creating or editing a song page:

==Information==
===Release===
====Studio====
====Live====
====Remix====
===Trivia===
==Lyrics==

Under the "Lyrics" headline create sub-headlines for different versions of the song, if the lyrics differ from each other. Name the sub-headlines as the version of the song is called. Or call it "Demo" or "Live version". As the first information describe what release the demo comes from or when the live version was played.

Names

When mentioning song names on a page, in whatever text, write them in italic. Even if they are a link.

Pictures

When uploading pictures, please make sure they don't exceed a file size of maximum 1 MB. Also, when possible, try to make sure that the releases can not be duplicated from those pictures, by censoring sensitive data on them. Like here.

Also when uploading live photos, please make sure to not always use Till or Richard. Try using a full stage shot, or to use every band member the same.

When you upload a new version of a photo, please delete the old versions of it. That way we get some webspace back.

Concert pages

Structure

Follow this structure when creating or editing a concert page:

{{Tourdate}}
==Information==
==Setlist==
==Media==
===Video===
===Audio===
===Gallery===
==Trivia==
==Sources==

If there is nothing special known about a show and the setlist is completely unknown, add "Nothing is known about the concert." after the heading "Information", like this:

==Information==
''Nothing is known about the concert.''

If the setlist is completely unknown, add "The setlist is completely unknown." after the heading "Setlist", like this:

==Setlist==
''The setlist is completely unknown.''

If there is no information that can be added to the other sections, do not include their headings in a concert page.

Code

Every concert page should contain a {{Tourdate}} infobox. The template can be found here. Usage of each field is explained below. If nothing can be added to certain fields, leave them empty or remove completely.

Field
Description
Examples
Date Month (in letters) DD, YYYY January 1, 1999
Image Photo of the band performing, try to find a photo that gives the best view of the stage and shows as many band members as possible. 01.01.1999band.jpg
Image size Displayed in the infobox images can not exceed the 250x250px limit, if an image's width and height are both smaller than 250px, type its resolution in this field to prevent expansion. Otherwise, do not use this field. 202x130px
Caption Description of the photo Perforamnce of "Asche zu Asche"
Till during the performance of "Tier"
Artist Name of the band performing, should be a clickable link within the RammWiki. [[Rammstein (band)|Rammstein]]
Country Name of the country in which the show took place. Germany
City Name of the city/town/village/hamlet/etc. Stick to the official names, use English names whenever possible. Cologne
Event Rarely used, usually should not be used at all. PolyGram World Congress
MTV Europe Music Awards
TV Show Similar to the previous field. Hanging Out
Festival Name of the musical festival. Rock am Ring
Wacken Open Air
Venue Name of the club/hall/stadium/etc. Wiener Stadthalle
Capacity Max amount of people the venue can fit in. 2 500
Attendance Approximate amoun of people that visited the show. 300
Tour Name of the tour, should be a clickable link within the RammWiki. [[Herzeleid Tour]]
Tour leg Name of the tour leg, should be a clickable link within the RammWiki leading to a tour's year page (for easier navigation). Name of the destination page is on the left, on the right is the displayed name (the actual name of the tour leg). [[Sehnsucht Tour 1997|Sehnsucht Tour 1997: German Autumn leg]]
Type When needed, should be used instead of the Tour leg field. [[Sehnsucht Tour 1997|Headline Show]]
[[TV Performances|TV Performance]]
[[Fanarea / LIFAD Concerts|Fanarea Concert]]
Performers If the band's lineup during the show was unusual (some members were missing or there were extra ones), add all of the performers here. [[Till Lindemann|Till]], [[Richard Kruspe|Richard]], [[Christoph Schneider|Schneider]], [[Oliver Riedel|Olli]]
Supporting Name of the headlining artist/band. [[Ramones]]
Other artists Usually used for festivals. Add names of the bands/artists that neither were headlining nor supporting the artist, add the most relevant artists, mention only artists that performed on the same date, do not add more than 5 artists, except for when there were 6 artists in total, mention the number of other artists after the 5 relevant ones. Oomph!, Schweisser, The Bates, Die Art, Crematory and 21 others
Support Name of the support band. If the band has no direct connection with Rammstein/Emigrate/Lindemann, do not add its name as a link. [[Eskimos & Egypt]]
Mink Stole
Price Ticket price. 21 / 25 DM
70.50 - 120 €
Songs Number of songs that were played at the show, if the total number is unknown add "known" after the number of songs that were definitely played, if the number is approximate add "≈ " before the number. 14
3 known
≈ 16 (10 known)
Recordings Very brief information about the recording of the show. Currently used format: Video/Audio/Unknown (professional/audience/unknown, complete/incomplete/unknown) xNUMBER Video (professional, incomplete) <small>x</small>1<br>Audio (audience, complete) <small>x</small>1
Last show Date of the previous show. [[31.12.1998 (concert)|December 31, 1998]]
Next show Date of the next show. [[02.01.1998 (concert)|January 2, 1999]]
Image1 Secondary image #1. Usually the order should be like this: Poster -> Ticket -> Pass -> Setlist -> Magazine/Newspaper article 01.01.1999poster.jpg
Caption1 Caption under the secondary image #1. Poster
Image size1 Size of the secondary image #1. Same as the Image size field. 152x230px
Image2 Secondary image #2. Usually the order should be like this: Poster -> Ticket -> Pass -> Setlist -> Magazine/Newspaper article 01.01.1999ticket.jpg
Caption2 Caption under the secondary image #2. Ticket
Image size2 Size of the secondary image #2. Same as the Image size field. 169x241px
Image3 Secondary image #3. Usually the order should be like this: Poster -> Ticket -> Pass -> Setlist -> Magazine/Newspaper article 01.01.1999setlist.jpg
Caption3 Caption under the secondary image #3. Setlist
Image size3 Size of the secondary image #3. Same as the Image size field. 90x166px

Setlists

Sources for the setlists

Reliable:

  • Video and audio recordings

Semi-reliable:

  • Photos of the band's performance (Might sometimes be confusing)
  • Attendees' memories (Memories can be wrong due to the human nature)
  • Magazine and newspaper articles (In some magazines, photos can be mislabeled as performances of other songs)
  • Photos of the setlist itself (There are a few examples of setlists that list songs that were not played, or the band played a different song instead of the listed one)

Unreliable:

  • Setlist.fm (Flooded with made up setlists)

Code

When editing/adding a setlist, keep in mind that:

  • The setlist should be inside the following structure:
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible wikitable" style="width:500px; overflow:auto;">

</div>
  • Every song should be a clickable link leading to the song's page within the RammWiki: "[[Heirate mich (song)|Heirate mich]]". On the left is the page's name, on the right is the displayed name.
  • If the total number of songs and their order is unknown, type "*" before each song, like here: "*[[Heirate mich (song)|Heirate mich]]". Try to put the songs in the most plausible order, this usually can be done by analizing other setlists.
    • If the complete setlist and the order are 100% confirmed, type "#" before each song, like here: "#[[Heirate mich (song)|Heirate mich]]".
  • A reference to the source should be added to the heading, like this: "==Setlist<ref>Video recording</ref>=="
    • If the information about the songs comes from different sources, add references after the songs. If some songs share a sources, add a name to the reference and use the name to address it further on. Here is an example:
*[[Rammstein (song)|Rammstein]]<ref name=phot>Photos</ref>
*[[Weißes Fleisch (song)|Weißes Fleisch]]<ref name=phot/>
*[[Feuerräder (song)|Feuerräder]]<ref>Newspaper article</ref>
  • "<br><br>" should be added after the last song before the encore, if there are multiple encores, add "<br><br>" after each of them, except for the last one. Example:
#[[Ohne dich (song)|Ohne dich]]<br><br>
#[[Sonne (song)|Sonne]]
#[[Amerika (song)|Amerika]]
#[[Stripped (song)|Stripped]]<br><br>
#[[Te Quiero Puta! (song)|Te Quiero Puta!]]
  • If the complete setlist is unknown, add "The complete setlist is unknown." before the first song. You can see the example below.
    • If you are not sure about the order of the listed songs as well, add "The complete setlist is unknown and the order may be wrong." instead.
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible wikitable" style="width:500px; overflow:auto;">
''The complete setlist is unknown.''
#[[Rammstein (song)|Rammstein]]
  • If all of the listed songs are guessed from the photos of the show, add "<small>Note: songs guessed from the existing photos.</small>" after the last song (see example below). Note that this may vary depending on context, like "<small>Note: song guessed from an existing photo.</small>" (one song - one photo), "<small>Note: song guessed from the photo.</small>" (specific photo present on the page), etc. If only some of the songs are guessed from the photos, references should be used.
*[[Rammstein (song)|Rammstein]]
*[[Weißes Fleisch (song)|Weißes Fleisch]]
<small>Note: songs guessed from the existing photos.</small>
</div>
  • When a song was debuted during a concert, mention it in the tracklist like on this page.
#[[Ich will (song)|Ich will]] <small>Live debut</small>